Embassy of The Meritocracy

[Capitollium]

Nations of the New Pacific Order, the Meritocracy sends its regards.

I have just recently been installed as the Meritocracy's ambassador to the New Pacific Order. Allow me to introduce myself.

I am Robert Wynne, First Citizen of Capitollium and Senator of the New Meritocracy for the past year. I consider myself of the old school as far as diplomacy. My tenure in the Meritocracy's Foriegn Diplomatic Corps began just before that of Senator Daedalus, who established this embassy, and whom I was greatly influenced by.

It is my hope and the hope of the Senate of the Meritocracy that our regions may grow to come to an affable understanding we set out to accomplish when we established this embassy amidst a storm of controversy from the "defender" community.

This embassy is willing to respond to any and all queries and requests of the nations of the Pacific.

[Pierconium]

Welcome to the NPO, First Citizen Wynne.

[Argyres]

Welcome, First Citizen, I'm glad you made it.


Incidentally, I'll be on vacation from the 28th till August 10th, so the esteemed Senator from Capitollium will be the Meritocratic representative here (barring some other appointment, naturally).

[Black Adder]

Unistrut said:

Another question if you'll bear with me- to whom does it appear that the Meritocracy is allied to the ADN? Granted the ADN has ratified an alliance with The Meritocracy but I can tell you as the lead diplomat no such ratification is in the offing in our Senate. Nor shall it be as long as I have something to say about it.

At the risk of sounding cheeky apparently whatever you had to say was of little merit (no pun intended). The treaty has been ratified on both ends as announced in the ADN. So what can we expect now?

edit: Link added

s3.invisionfree.com/ADN/index.php?showtopic=2140

[Capitollium]

You may expect what the treaty dictates, if any attack either the ADN or Meritocracy, the other has pledged some form of support. I am the author of the document and hence believe I have the authority to tell you that.

I am not Unistrut nor do I often agree with him, and I shall not engage in speculation. However, I can give you my personal opinion that the sentiment in the Senate is not one that is likely to approve military support of the ADN unless the most dire circumstances occur.

ADMA was ratified, from our perspective, to secure vital ADN intelligence and present an effective blueprint for our common desire for a peaceful and stable world order.

We believe the NPO could greatly contribute to this peaceful and stable world order and extend the terms of our Convention on Justified War that has been ratified by our Senate as well as that of the ADN.

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Convention on Justified War

Recognizing our organizations as those who sympathize with the just causes of the free and peaceful regions of the world, we, the delegates of the Alliance Defense Network and the Meritocracy, declare the following:

Section 1

The global community shall recognize any nation, region, or treaty organization that invades another without a justified reason as an aggressor, and an enemy of the free world.

We define a treaty organization as any arrangement that binds nations within different regions.

Region crashing, or attacking another region with the aim of seizing the UN Delegate\'s regional control settings and implementing a superior number of UN nations, is only justified if the attack is justified under one or more of the following criteria:

1) The invasion is attempted in retaliation for a previous attack orchestrated by nation, region, or treaty organization being invaded.
2) The invader can offer written proof of their adversary\'s plans to attack them.
3) The invasion is attempted to regain the delegacy for a UN Delegate who was ousted by an aggressor.

Section 2

During times of conflict, the following actions are not to be condoned by the free world, nor implemented by the nations that represent it:

1) Attacking a nation, region, or treaty organization without convincing evidence of their involvement in the conflict.
2) Spamming a regional message board.
3) Attempting to hack into the NationStates website to achieve a military objective.
4) Framing another nation, region, or treaty organization for an operation the nation, region, or treaty organization was not involved with.

Section 3

The following nations, regions, and treaty organizations pledge to adhere to this agreement:
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The ratification of this document on the NPO's behalf would be an excellent first step.

I shall wait in earnest for your reactions.

[Black Adder]

I'm sure there are those who would view this an unholy Alliance rivalling Crimea. I will say I am encouraged by your stance regarding intervention given the current state of the NS world.

Alas, I am a minor functionary in the Ministry for Foreign Affairs so what I think truly must be taken lightly. I can say this will be examined by the Senate in detail. Thank you for the swift post.

[Tharain]

Just one question, while the ADN top-levels may be able to hold to this agreement, does anyone believe for a second it will be able to control it's many "individual armies" or die-hard members?

I'm sorry, I just can't see some of the ADN's armies taking section 1.1 in the spirit of the agreement, but saying "You attacked X-region 10 years ago so it gives us justified war against you!" The treaty doesn't offer any "release of grievance" after a grievance has been addressed under section 1, thus allowing multiple uses of section 1.1 for the same original action.

Similarly, section 1.3 specifies "an agressor". It doesn't define whether it is the current agressor or a previous agressor. I would've written section 1.3 along the lines of "3. The invasion is an attempt to return to delegacy the UN Delegate ousted by the current UN Delegate".

As a citizen of the Pacific, and of the NPO, I suggest my Government look VERY carefully at the document, and between the lines. It looks to me like the agreement is aimed at something/someone.

Tharain.

[Chosen Men]

Tharain said:

Just one question, while the ADN top-levels may be able to hold to this agreement, does anyone believe for a second it will be able to control it's many "individual armies" or die-hard members?

Excellent question, Tharain. And if I may, let me add this:

The recent world trend appears to be for organization leaders or high ranking officials to splinter off from the main group for real or imagined hurts and create another organization to combat the first... an anti-denomination, if you will.

The threat of traitor intel-breaches and one-upmanship-over-rivals invasions has increased. What, if any, plans do you have to combat threats like these?

[Cortath]

Chosen said:

Excellent question, Tharain. And if I may, let me add this:

The recent world trend appears to be for organization leaders or high ranking officials to splinter off from the main group for real or imagined hurts and create another organization to combat the first... an anti-denomination, if you will.

The threat of traitor intel-breaches and one-upmanship-over-rivals invasions has increased. What, if any, plans do you have to combat threats like these?

The ADN members abide by the decisions of its legislative bodies and executives. What more can you expect than their word any more than anyone can expect anything more than the world of Francos when asked if his members will abide by his agreements? This is the way of governments in the NS world.

I do not see this world trend you speak of among the defender world.

[Tharain]

Cortath:

I direct you to ADN Executive Resolution Jul 8 2004, 08:36 PM - North Pacific Resolution- Great Bight

Joint Resolution of the Senate and House:

WHEREAS: The current delegate of the North Pacific, Great Bight, rose to power by means contrary to the stated procedure as outlined in the lawful Constitution of the North Pacific Region.

WHEREAS: Great Bight has illegally ejected all opposition (to wit: UglyTool and others early morning 7/8/04) and wrongfully imposed an endorsment cap of 180.

WHEREAS: Great Bight has unilaterally and unlawfully withdrawn the North Pacific from all alliances and treaties and closed all NP embassies.

BE IT RESOLVED: That the Alliance Defense Network, all its offices, government officials, military and intelligence operations and personnel, The ADN in all its totality; refuses to recognize Great Bight as the delegate of the North Pacific.

BE IT ALSO RESOLVED: That the ADN also refuses to recognize any appointees or enactments by the so called delegate, Great Bight.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED: That the ADN will recognize the last lawfully appointed representatives of the North Pacific (as of 17 June 2004) as the de-facto lawful government of the North Pacific in exile and work with said Lawful Government and its representatives to restore the North Pacific to a status of lawful governance in accordance with the North Pacific Constitution. Said lawfully appointed representatives shall be referred to as "The Lawful Government of the North Pacific".
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This vote will be open for 24 hours, or until 3:40 pm Central Time. As always, vote either Yay, Nay, or Abstain.

The resolution passed 19 - yea, 1 - no, 2 - abstain. This is the only resolution on Great Bight. No where does it issue military action. All it says is to denounce Great Bight and recognise the old government.

Thus I give you this post from EuroSoviets 29 June, 11:31AM

Comrades, I would like this statement put to a vote, in order that it be ratified as representing the opinions of the ADN as an organisation.

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This House does not recognise the delegate UPS Rail (aka Sir Paul) as the democratically elected delegate of The North Pacific due to strong evidence that Franco despatched many endorsees to The North Pacific some time around two weeks ago, to endorse his ally UPS Rail.

This House supports the representatives of the North Pacific in calling for military liberation of their home region from the inevitable tyranny which will be established, where nations will rise to government on the basis of how effectively they can conform to the system, instead of challenging it as is their democratic right.

This House condemns Francos Spain and the so called New Pacific Order for their obvious hand in the installation of UPS Rail, and the conspiracy that quite plainly existed during the several months of UPS Rails' membership in The North Pacific.

This House further finds its suspicions confirmed in the manner in which UPS Rail waited to announce this so called 'revolution' until the NS forums were down and his delegacy was several days established, resulting in an increased endorsement count from the large amount of easily led nations in any superregion.

This House declares unequivocally that the expulsion of the legitimate government and leading members of The North Pacific, in specific Blackshear, Magicality, The Twoslit Experiment, Thel DRan, Costelloism, Cathyy, Alexein and Rasputinland was an illegal act by an illegitimate delegate and was in breach of the trusting democracy that the North Pacific had come to represent, prior to it's enslavement by the NPO.

Finally, This House declares that as the NPO is not the sovereign government of any regions, war on a given region cannot be declared, but that the ADN can and should take all action that her members deem necessary in the bid to free the North Pacific, and ultimately the Pacific from the tyranny of Franco and his band of sycophants.

This resolution also passed. This resolution calls for military action, but against UPS Rail, not Great Bight. Therefore this resolution is illegal if called against Great Bight.

And now I come to a post from Bracycardian Cavemen (ADN Intelligence Director & Global Mod), in a thread where Khwarazmian Cavalry asked if the ADN was doing anything about the North Pacific, dated Jul 23 2004, 01:27 AM (DEFINITELY in the time of Great Bight):

The ADN has most certainly been doing its best to get the North Pacific situation involved and will continue to do so.

I'll keep it up if it kills me!

This is in direct violation of the first AND second resolutions posted at the top of these comments.

This means that elements of the ADN military are ultimately performing illegal acts contrary to the resolutions of the ADN Executive.

Thus my original question remains:

Just one question, while the ADN top-levels may be able to hold to this agreement, does anyone believe for a second it will be able to control it's many "individual armies" or die-hard members?

Tharain.

[Pierconium]

I believe you will find that the ADN Constitutionalists/Politicians have little to no control over the ADN Militarists actions.

If the ADN Military, or any of it's allies, the RRA, ALL, etc. decides to take military action no resolution by the Senate or House will stop them.

[Tharain]

Pierconium:

I completely concure with your comments. Which is exactly the point of my question.

If a Senator would be kind enough to inform us of the progress of their discussions on the Meritocracy Embassies request to "ratify" the Convention on Justified War I would be most grateful.

Tharain.

[Capitollium]

I thank all for their interest.

A point of order. The Meritocracy is not the Alliance Defense Network. I am not authorized to speak on behalf of the ADN, and coincidentally most of the speaking I do is aimed at defaming that organization. Therefore, any questions about the ADN should not be curried to the Meritocracy. This embassy represents the Meritocratic Senate and that alone.

Thus, the actions of extremists within the ADN is not the concern of this embassy. That is the most satisfactory answer I am authorized to give to you, Tharain.


The Convention on Justified War is an attempt at shedding light on what is deemed acceptable conduct by the international community. If the Senate of the NPO would like to make minor changes, the adoption of a Convention compatible for both the Meritocracy and NPO is an important step in the creation of a world order that protects established organizations like the Meritocracy and New Pacific Order from rogue threats and invader states.

[Black Adder]

Rome wasn't built in a day Tharain. Patience.

[Tharain]

Sorry Black Adder, you're right.

I humbly apologise to the Meritocracy Embassy for presenting arguements about the ADN to him.

I do still suggest that the couple of gaps I mentioned above about Section 1.1 and Section 1.3 be reviewed carefuly by our leaders.

Thanks
Tharain.