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Post by Abysseria on Jan 15, 2004 17:05:31 GMT -5
Unlimited's reasoning here is very good, and sound. He is right.
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Post by Lactating Nuns on Jan 15, 2004 17:10:59 GMT -5
It seems to me that violence will only lead to more violence. The kind of diplomacy that was initiated with myrulesia seems like the best route to expansion of NPO ideals.
Unfortunately, that diplomatic effort has now been jeopardized because of what happened last week. But it was a big deal, before that occured, that the South Pacific was willing to recognize Francos as the leader of the Pacific. If two different Pacific regions entered diplomatic relations with the NPO (thinking the South and the East), that would be very significant. It would certainly encourage the larger nation-created regions to consider diplomacy as well, with all the benefits that would flow from that.
But the all too common misperception about the NPO is that it's a ruthless dictatorship. What better way to reinforce that, and to turn away potential supporters, then to go around invading regions?
As I understand it, the NPO is an evolution. It is not a perfect government, but it represents the most effective large scale government yet formed in NS. Backsliding into imperialist temptations will only turn back the hands of time and set NS back to before the NPO formed. Continued evolution calls for diplomatic solutions and treaties backed up by adherence to moral guidelines. Of course, this is just my two cents. I humbly defer to the NPO leadership if my viewpoint is not synchronous with the ideals of the NPO.
This has been a soapbox speech by your favorite lactating nuns. I hope this doesn't become a ... habit?
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Unlimited
Senator / Pacific Surveyor of Foreign Threat
Vanguard of the Pacific Revolution
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Post by Unlimited on Jan 15, 2004 17:18:28 GMT -5
Lactating Nuns is spot on.
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Post by Abysseria on Jan 16, 2004 12:44:33 GMT -5
Well phrased.
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Post by Tar A on Jan 16, 2004 13:26:26 GMT -5
[insert pointless, "I agree"-ish, post-count-increasing, spammish post here]
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Post by Warrior Thorin on Jan 16, 2004 15:11:26 GMT -5
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Post by DemAm on Jan 16, 2004 15:47:15 GMT -5
I guess you guys are right, it doesn't really make sense to invade regions when you discuss it.
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TBAN
Liege
want trouble come here
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Post by TBAN on Jan 16, 2004 16:09:44 GMT -5
Hi I am new here but not to the NS.
I have been in two other regions that got taken over. Your right that if nations don't like what you want them to do they just leave. Sometimes they leave and reformulate and then you have an enemey to contend with. Diplomacy will always be a better solution in handeling objectives you have in mind.
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Post by Mars Sara on Jan 16, 2004 16:41:40 GMT -5
Seems to me that invading a region is a waste of time and effort. Your leaders end up having to manage two regions, you've split your population in two, and who's to say that whoever leads the conquered region won't just split off and become a new enemy?
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TBAN
Liege
want trouble come here
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Post by TBAN on Jan 16, 2004 17:14:41 GMT -5
Exactly!!!
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Post by Warrior Thorin on Jan 16, 2004 17:21:02 GMT -5
It's better in the long run to just ally with like-minded regions. I see nothing wrong in sending ambassadors abroad for that purpose.
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Post by Tar A on Jan 16, 2004 18:01:20 GMT -5
Invasions can be a lot of fun, but they're better left to capable groups like the AA.
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Post by Mammothistan on Jan 16, 2004 19:39:27 GMT -5
I guess you guys are right, it doesn't really make sense to invade regions when you discuss it. Now now, I gained prominence with the Golden Horde.
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Post by DemAm on Jan 17, 2004 7:48:10 GMT -5
I dont know anything about that, care to enlighten me?
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Post by Abysseria on Jan 20, 2004 8:19:47 GMT -5
I think, Mamoth, what we're trying to say is that for our region, given our desire to NOT weaken the delegate, its better we stick to diplomacy than invasion.
That doesn't mean our idea of a small group working hard to create allies is a bad idea, though...
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