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Post by Papal on Nov 16, 2003 12:16:24 GMT -5
TEXTSavage Lands Is dead
The so called Bastion of Freedom known as the Savage lands has been wiped off the face of Nationstates.The former delegate known as Thedoc has also ceased to exist.
Savage Lands was a pathetic moron that failed to justify his actions in a debate in the pacific message Civ HQ.His failuire upset him and like an infant he squealed to the moderators and fled to the pacific in humiliation.
I returned after my deltion and asked him never to come to the pacific again however he reported to the mods that I was griefing.Savage lands was deleted during this new conflict and I say good riddence.
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Sir Paul
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Post by Sir Paul on Nov 16, 2003 14:35:23 GMT -5
Although it is about time that these nations are deleted for greifing, I do mourn losing them on some level. Thedoc is a part of our history as a region, and the Savage Lands has been a nation that the NPO could point at as the incompetent leader of the resistance. In George Orwell’s 1984, although the Party had complete control of the nation, they let the brotherhood and the traitor Goldstein exist because it kept the people ever vigilant. Although the RR and PA have no hope of reinstating their control over the Pacific, these relics from before the revolution remind us of the chaos and turmoil they brought to the Pacific. Watching Thedoc and the Savage Lands attempt to reclaim the Pacific show just how incompetent the conspirators are, and how skilled the NPO is at dispatching them. Most insurgence was channeled through the Savage Lands, and he botched it up every time. We must remember to always stay wary as threats could now appear in any form.
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Post by Papal on Nov 16, 2003 15:20:14 GMT -5
I admit that his loss will mean that we will have to find a new example to point to and laugh at.However his death has shook the Pacific Army to their roots.I think they are beginning to realise that resistence is futile.
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Post by Unlimited on Nov 16, 2003 18:25:16 GMT -5
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Post by Unlimited on Nov 16, 2003 20:18:19 GMT -5
I do believe I just spotted : "The Armed Republic of Savage Lands Reloaded" back in the Pacific Army region.
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Post by Black Adder on Nov 17, 2003 0:33:21 GMT -5
You have. We will always have the focal point of Goldstein in the presence of Savage although I'm reticent about comparing Francos to Big Brother. There's no such oppression here. I do see the PA as the White Russians trying to reinstall an oppressive elitist former regime. While I may mark their passing with the appropriate respect they are nonetheless our ideological enemy and still very much dangerous. Perhaps even more so as martyrs.
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Post by Abysseria on Nov 17, 2003 9:13:22 GMT -5
You have. We will always have the focal point of Goldstein in the presence of Savage although I'm reticent about comparing Francos to Big Brother. There's no such oppression here. I do see the PA as the White Russians trying to reinstall an oppressive elitist former regime. While I may mark their passing with the appropriate respect they are nonetheless our ideological enemy and still very much dangerous. Perhaps even more so as martyrs. Ii agree with Black Adder in that it is unfortunate and inappropriate to compare Francos to Big Brother. Far from it! He's not treated me or my nation in any way whatsoever. He's managed to balance order with democracy, a difficult feat, and created a stable region because of it. Let's not lose sight of that!
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Post by Taidan on Nov 17, 2003 11:12:32 GMT -5
But is democracy living in fear of a person who you did not elect, but was elected by nations that have now either died or left NS?
Rembmer Democratia, translated from greek: Rule of the People, that is Democracy, that is not what is happening in the Pacific.
This has been a devil's advocate post from the POV of the PA and RRA.
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Post by Black Adder on Nov 17, 2003 11:43:46 GMT -5
Well your devils advocate post completely disregards reality and you wish to comment please try to use some reason. Franco obtained power by being endorsed, he did not invade and there are no occupation troops walking the streets. If he had no support we'd all flee he'd have 3 endorsements and you all could walk in the conquering liberators. You are not liberators, you are invaders hoping to reinstall the regime Franco tossed out. Any oppression here is due to a state of Martial law the PA and RRA have caused with their incessant attempts to reinstall our former masters. Leave us alone so me may enjoy the fruits of our efforts. To date we can do nothing but hunker down and fight off the unfair neverending seige you propagate. Do you want a perpetual state of War? We love peace and you will not allow it. Who is the evil one here? Methinks its not Franco.
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Post by Abysseria on Nov 17, 2003 14:27:35 GMT -5
Agreed, and I've made this point many times. Francos' rule does NOT infringe on anyone's sovreignty. It is a response to the constant spamming and poor behavior of the PA and RRA. When those people aren't around, we have a great time.
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Post by Deringstan on Nov 17, 2003 16:29:57 GMT -5
Exactly, my telegram box if full with crap from them. Why can't I post a notice on it with "No anti-Franco crap, No Spamming"
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Post by Taidan on Nov 18, 2003 13:39:45 GMT -5
I was tryin to give you the feel of the meetings that go on in the PA and the RRA . Weird ain't it. The RRA is not as bad as the PA, the RRA beleives what it spews, it honestly thinks that well, Franco Spain is just the most sucsesfull of all invaders. It really can get weird.
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Post by Tar A on Nov 18, 2003 13:48:54 GMT -5
Yeah, well, whatever. Francos is less of an invader then they'll ever be.
Actually the PA have just gotten a bad name for themselves. I've spoken with the more prominent members on several occaisions and found them to be well spoken and nice. I guess they just have nothing else to do with themselves except fight for "the cause" ...
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Post by Abysseria on Nov 18, 2003 17:00:41 GMT -5
What I don't understand is that they don't want to define the game as something more than that. I think all of us want to define the game as something different than what it is right now. We want to be able to do so many other things than worry about this crap, but we're stuck because those people are so freakin fixated on this. It's highly irritating.
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Post by Mars Sara on Nov 18, 2003 18:33:33 GMT -5
Right! They're trying to make an interesting and engaging political simulation into a war simulation. If they were trying to gain power through the political nature of the game instead of invading, I would be much more worried, and interested. Why can't they just accept that they can't have the Pacific and do whatever they want in their own regions?
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