Francos Spain
Our Blessed and Chosen Leader of the Pacific
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Post by Francos Spain on Jun 3, 2004 2:02:39 GMT -5
Abortion Rights A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights. Category: Human Rights Strength: Significant Proposed by: Vistadin
Description:
Henceforth all women shall have the right to choose whether to have an abortion or not, no member nation will interfere with a woman's right to have an abortion.
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Post by Pierconium on Jun 3, 2004 7:49:19 GMT -5
Aside from being anti-abortion (thus my quick "Against" vote) this resolution lacks detail.
Are there no limits on when a woman can have an abortion according to this resolution? Can a woman choose to abort at 30 weeks? Technically can a woman choose to abort at 5 years (just a question, some of us think abortion is murder so 2 weeks and 5 years are the same thing when ending a life)?
While I do hold certain strong anti-abortion beliefs if I were pro-choice I would still vote against this legislation.
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Unlimited
Senator / Pacific Surveyor of Foreign Threat
Vanguard of the Pacific Revolution
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Post by Unlimited on Jun 3, 2004 8:13:29 GMT -5
I agree with Pierconium, while I am pro-choice to a certain extent, this resolution is far too vague.
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Post by Black Adder on Jun 3, 2004 8:16:33 GMT -5
Not to mention who is the UN to begin dictating to member states when or where certain procedures should be made available. It is yet another resolution aimed at further deterioration of the sovereignity of the individual member.
I'm pro choice incidentally.
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Post by Mammothistan on Jun 3, 2004 8:39:16 GMT -5
Abortions for all!
*crowd boos*
Fine. Abortions for none!
*crowd boos*
Abortions for some, miniature Pacific flags for the rest!
*votes against resolution for possibly meddling with this genius plan*
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Post by Warrior Thorin on Jun 3, 2004 9:39:33 GMT -5
Too funny!
I'm a bit of a paradox here. Morally, I am opposed to abortion, but legally I am pro-choice. That is, I would not recommend anyone do it, but that is a choice made by the woman who has to bear the burden.
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Post by Desetland on Jun 3, 2004 12:02:45 GMT -5
This resolution messes with national sovergny too muck for me to vote for it.
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Post by Tar A on Jun 4, 2004 8:43:44 GMT -5
I'm voting for it... not because I think it's a great resolution... because I'm so tired of people thinking they know what's best for everyone else and trying to impose their oh-so-superior moral code on other people. Screw them all! (Not literally ;D.)
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Post by Black Adder on Jun 4, 2004 8:54:43 GMT -5
Isn't that exactly what this resolution is doing? Forcing the member states to adopt their moral position? What does an international body have to do with medical practises in the member nations? Are they to ban circumcisions next as being mutilation for boys? I would support the resolution if it was for a proposed plan to allow for member states to draw on the education and expertise provided by the UN. I don't support them telling me I have to do anything. If Adder was a true nation there would be full access to such procedures anyway but in the same sense there would be open access to contraception and heavily subsidized so even the simplest of mouth breathers would have no excuse to have an ill timed baking incident. UN has no business telling me how to run my country in any aspect. They can talk about improving access, proposing basic human rights but the go too far when they dictate policy.
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Post by Ceaser on Jun 4, 2004 9:55:23 GMT -5
I'm against every UN resolution. whether it be valid or not, whether I disagree or not
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Post by Tar A on Jun 7, 2004 9:04:49 GMT -5
Isn't that exactly what this resolution is doing? Forcing the member states to adopt their moral position? No, it isn't. The resolution does away with imposing moral beliefs on the rest of the population and instead provides them with civil liberties.
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Post by Hallowed Isolation on Jun 9, 2004 14:36:30 GMT -5
Alas, it's times like these that lead me to question my loyality to the UN, my support of her cause. As a result of the passing of the Abortion Rights resolution, one more frivolity and one more intrusion now crowns the UN. But I am encouraged by the honesty displayed by many of you who are Pro-Choice: this is another infringement upon nation sovereignty. To deny it is blindness.
It's times like these which lead me to question my loyality to the UN, my support of her cause.
And to those who are Pro-Life, the apparent vagueness of this resolution is an opportunity, not a detriment.
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