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Post by Black Adder on Aug 12, 2004 8:07:19 GMT -5
Its certainly not Independant but it does make a very clear case Comrades. This is how we feel about the recent events. This is a glimpse into why we feel the way we do about the Defender Organizations. Browse the other articles,It raises some excellent questions. As citizens of the Pacific, as members of the NPO its all our responsibility to understand why we feel the way we do. Its all our responsibility to be the repository as individuals for the History of the NPO, The Pacific and the Game NationStates. Each one of us is an Ambassador at some point, make sure you are educated and conduct yourself with dignity unlike the mouthbreathers that crawl out of the closet spewing profane meanderings our detractors seem to send. I encourage all of you to read all you can, see all you can outside our region and question us at anytime. We are all Comrades in the NPO revolution. www.freewebs.com/nsindependentvoice/opinion.htm
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Post by Galaisa on Aug 12, 2004 13:17:19 GMT -5
here here very well written
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Post by SardaASSK on Aug 12, 2004 17:41:31 GMT -5
Cheers BA!
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Post by General Melchett on Aug 12, 2004 22:09:04 GMT -5
Very wise words.
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Post by Doppelganger on Aug 12, 2004 22:36:09 GMT -5
unlike the mouthbreathers that crawl out of the closet spewing profane meanderings our detractors seem to send. Hahaha. ;D Mouthbreathers. I always thought that term was funny. Seriously though, it's a well written article. The ADN is losing more and more respect with each passing day.
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Post by Pierconium on Aug 13, 2004 3:38:55 GMT -5
We applaud the efforts of The Independent Voice.
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Post by TheDarkPheonix on Aug 14, 2004 19:36:38 GMT -5
Agreed, when ADN falls we shall all breath a sigh of collective releif.
Even the other defenders are angry at ADN, one of my N.S. friend outside of this region said ADN infilitrated his organization, and yes it was a defender organization. ADN is getting far too power-hungry for it's own good and NPO is the only organization which has the ability to stand up to it, for now.
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Post by LadyRebels on Aug 15, 2004 4:55:16 GMT -5
Do you honestly think that TNPO is the only ones that stand against the ADN?
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Post by Black Adder on Aug 15, 2004 5:32:25 GMT -5
No we don't think we're the only ones who are critical of the ADN hence the Union of Sovereigns. We do appear to be the raison d'etre for many of their more radical membership to rail against and for much of the media to focus on as the largest 'opposing' force. This all sets the stage for the NPO vs ADN.
The NPO and ADN are not in a declared state of War or official aggression. The reality is we are being attacked by elements of their membership for over a year now. These attacks may not have the official blessing of the leadership but they certainly aren't attempting to rein in these elements choosing to rely on the same defense the Meritocracy employed when CrazyGirl and Unistrut decided to take advantage not so long ago- Sovereignity of the individual participating nations acting outside the official mandate of the Organization.
So to readdress the original question, are we the only ones who stand up to the ADN? In a very real sense we do on a consistent basis against their aggression and suffer a disproportionate share of their aspirations which fortunately for the Pacific has failed. It would be nice if other regions were as vocal.
I realize the South Pacific may not be officially allied but a significant portion of your Government has very deep ties with the ADN. They regard you as theirs.
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Post by Nucleo on Aug 15, 2004 16:56:50 GMT -5
meh
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Post by LadyRebels on Aug 15, 2004 17:15:48 GMT -5
As you said a few members of the Government of TSP is in deep with ADN, but rest assured that TSP is not the ADN's or anyone's for that matter, we are TSP and that is all there is to that.
It has been proven in the past and if need be will be proven once again.
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Post by Nucleo on Aug 15, 2004 18:03:53 GMT -5
It does not need to be proven.
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Post by sedarva on Aug 18, 2004 6:05:27 GMT -5
You know, I've heard talk of the ADN trying to justify raids by installing their own agents and staging a raid all for personal gain. I don't really think that its 100% true but you never know. Nations I know have done intel missions inside the ADN and I would expect them to do such a thing but its prbly a rumour. True though, it will be a good day when the ADN dissolves. They were good at first but "absolute power corrupts absolutely"
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Post by Black Adder on Aug 18, 2004 6:30:50 GMT -5
Sedarva I have heard the same things but I can't give them any credence until I have proof and specifics. Until then its hearsay and unfair to pose since they are allegations with no real substance to defend against. I'm sure there's nations there who would consider such tactics but there's many I know of who would find that simply wrong.
I hope the ADN doesn't wither and die, they do have a purpose. I wish they would stick to the purpose they were founded for, defence. Its difficult to keep such a beast in line given its size but they have to if they want to stay relevant and legitimate. That is their challenge and what should be going on, serious reform.
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Post by sedarva on Aug 18, 2004 6:35:52 GMT -5
Definately. *sorry never was a good speller
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