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Post by Tar A on Mar 18, 2004 4:25:17 GMT -5
Today's issue for our communal puppet, everyone please feel free to lodge your vote and participate in the debate. (Dilemma #96) - "Water Supply Problems Becoming a Major Drain" The IssueDue to the explosive population growth in The New Pacific Order, coupled with recent droughts, people are beginning to worry about the nation's decreasing water supply, and who should get first dibs on the vital H20. The Debate- Option 1: "We need this water to raise our crops," says incensed farmer Hope Nagasawa. "If it wasn't for us farmers, the rest of The New Pacific Order would be starving. How about laying the blame where it belongs, and look to those cookie cutter suburban houses with their green lawns and pristinely washed mini-vans!"
- Option 2: "It is my right to have the most beautiful lawn in the neighborhood," says neighborhood spokesman Buy Summers. "our community spends alot of effort cultivated a nice environment for our kids to grow up in. Why, if they didn't have these nice lawns to play in, they would be hanging out on street corners peddling drugs, or worse! Wont someone please think of the children?"
- Option 3: "Here is a novel idea," proclaims Bill Mistletoe, spokesperson for radical environmental group Leave Nature Alone. "How about getting rid of all these dams and irrigation projects that are getting in the way of Mother Nature's plans for the water. It is time to allow the rivers to take their natural courses and leave the environment alone. I'm sure things will work out fine if we let Nature take its course."
- Option 4: "Obviously, who gets how much water is only a part of the problem." Notes famed population-control advocate Stephanie Hendrikson. "We must try to curtail the rapid growth of our population, whether by limiting the amount of children people may have, or by deporting immigrants and criminals... we must get a handle on our population before we can hope to correct this water supply problem."
#nosmileys
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Nova Awe
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Post by Nova Awe on Mar 18, 2004 6:00:06 GMT -5
Currently, the Meritocracy is doing the same thing. We aren't as far along, but it looks like it'll be fun.
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Post by Tar A on Mar 18, 2004 6:23:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I noticed. You and the SP too. Haven't seen anyone else do it but I've heard of it. Our puppet almost has 500 million... ;D
From what I saw it looked like you were having a good time with it. Glad to see it working out for you as well.
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Post by Abysseria on Mar 18, 2004 9:44:48 GMT -5
Option 4! Sustainable growth. If you can't sustain growth, don't grow. That's a clear law. Let's not bring down the puppet because we can't keep our jimmy's in our pants
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Post by Jennivier on Mar 18, 2004 13:43:24 GMT -5
I vote to dismiss the issue, and let the real Mother Nature take care of the problem. We face this issue every summer(RL too), and it always works.
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Sir Paul
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Post by Sir Paul on Mar 18, 2004 14:25:05 GMT -5
With out the money the farmers bring in from their produce, you liberals will have to cut back on your social programs. Vote option 1.
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Post by Tar A on Mar 18, 2004 18:12:01 GMT -5
Damn, how could I be choosing the same option as Sir Paul? I better rethink my stance here... Nah, still the same. I live in a place heavily affected by droughts in real life and abhor the idea of green beautiful lawns when water is running out.
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Post by Sir Paul on Mar 18, 2004 18:38:32 GMT -5
I live in a place heavily affected by droughts in real life and abhor the idea of green beautiful lawns when water is running out. Are you a Los Angelino? Be honest, its ok.
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Post by Tar A on Mar 18, 2004 18:48:14 GMT -5
No, no. God no. New Mexico. We've had the wettest winter in some ridiculous number like 40 years, and I think the avarage precipitation during the past three months still didn't go over 4 inches.
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Post by Sir Paul on Mar 18, 2004 18:57:21 GMT -5
Lemme guess, you've got thousands of Snow Belters and Californians fleeing taxes flooding into your area each month, and when they get here, keep living as they did before, with unlimmited water, with everything from lawns to pools to squirting down their driveway every weekend.
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Post by Tar A on Mar 18, 2004 21:10:16 GMT -5
Yeah, and then they go to the legislature and whine about their disproportionately high water bills - we have programs here where you get a discount on water if you go under a certain quota, or you have to pay a higher fee for every percentage you go over it. It's been in place for several years, but no one will ever shut up about how illegal it is. Not to mention that whenever anyone suggests xerascaping the city (replacing grass with rocks is mostly what that is), they fly off the handle and call it inasthetic. Well, that it might be, but who gives a flying fuck? I'd rather drink the water myself than let some lousy pieces of grass steal it from me.
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Post by Sir Paul on Mar 18, 2004 21:23:04 GMT -5
Tell 'em to stop whining. Ever since the power crisis, us Californians have had to pay up to four times the cost of electricity if we go over "baseline" and it doens't take into account how big your house is or how many people. Don't forget, us valley folk put up with 100 degree weather, while those bay area swine don't even need a/c. As to the water situation, tell 'em to look at Tuscon. Beautiful city, no grass. Anyways, if you want grass, DON'T MOVE TO THE FUCKING DESERT! The reason there's no snow here is because THERE'S NO FUCKING WATER! Remind them that New Mexico doesn't have the Money and Power Los Angeles has, and thus, can't steal other regions water. This is an areal photo of Owens Lake. You may notice that there is no water in the lake, and the area surrounding the lake is a desert. Los Angeles stole the water rights and took so much water the lake drained and the valley became a desert. Imagine 60% of LA's water in this tiny valley. It was lush. Oh well. Water Flows Uphill to money and power. So until New Mexico gets some money and power, tell 'em to put some rocks down and live in the ecosystem they moved into.
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Post by Tar A on Mar 19, 2004 0:18:21 GMT -5
I heard about the lake issue, and also that there's other lakes the politicians want to do this to. While, of course, completely ignoring the fact that LA IS RIGHT FUCKING NEXT TO A HUUUGE OCEAN. I know ocean water treatment plants are expensive and a whole lot less viable than draining lakes, but soon they won't have any choice - the lakes will all be gone, the groundwater will be gone, and then who will they look to? Their neighbors of Nevada or Arizona? Somehow I doubt it.
Yep, there's a very serious fight over xerascaping, right down to my own neighborhood... the community planners did grass and trees and a water fountain at the entrance, and when we finally fought and won against the fountain (it's now a rock garden) a whole bunch of people actually moved out of the neighborhood in protest (can you imagine anything stupider than moving your house because you don't like how the entrance looks?). I tell you, the place is full of retards who pay their high water bills because they can afford to and refuse to look past today.
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Post by Desetland on Mar 19, 2004 18:25:34 GMT -5
while those bay area swine don't even need a/c. That's because we get horribly foggy weather and 60 degree summers instead. Ugh.
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Post by Unlimited on Mar 19, 2004 18:41:06 GMT -5
Please tell me you're not complaining about a calafornian summer? You've obviously never visited round my parts.
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