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Post by Black Adder on Mar 31, 2004 22:34:08 GMT -5
No, a cap would be a definite number one can't cross, such as 40, 80, etc. I don't believe that is in all regions. Also, Black, I'm disappointed that you felt the need to reprimand me without talking to Franco. Franco approved my name here because my nation's name is quiet long. All regions are not major regions. Anything less than 100 nations doesn't really bear mention. All regions have the invisible crossing line before they get nervous and start looking to clamp down. I sincerely doubt your name is that long you couldn't abbreviate it to something recognizable. It can't be that long that NS recognizes the number of characters yet you couldn't do something more recognizable which leads me to my original assertion of who are you? And I'm still expecting some sort of retraction on the Bald faced lie comment. As far as Comrade Franco is concerned I'm sure he'll be more than quick to reprimand me if I err. Until then you're displaying very disruptive tendancies.
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Post by Where Romeo Never Dies on Mar 31, 2004 23:12:25 GMT -5
I was stating something - that is a freedom, no?
And I know at least one major region doesn't have caps. Hence the lie with "all".
And I don't understand why, if Franco was able to except this name for my nation, why can't you?
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Post by Black Adder on Mar 31, 2004 23:28:07 GMT -5
Who are you. Simple question.
You use the word lie too freely for my liking. And if you want to exercise the freedom to speak your mind around me without evoking my wrath a little respect is in order.
Again. Who are you.
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Francos Spain
Our Blessed and Chosen Leader of the Pacific
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Post by Francos Spain on Mar 31, 2004 23:48:23 GMT -5
I'd quite like to know what region you're referring to, as all current delegates of the Pacifics have ejected endorsement rivals in the past. You know Kandarin doesn't count, right?
And I believe I told you that you could register a username that was short, presumably for convience. Your user name is not your display name, which is what's required to correspond to your nation name. You can go remedy this via the "Profile" tab atop this page.
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Post by Supernal Peace on Apr 1, 2004 0:34:56 GMT -5
There are some basic ground rules for civility of which our newest guest appears to have been uninformed in what was probably a disadvantaged upbringing. Certainly, in such a fully benevolent dictatorship as we enjoy under the leadership of El Caudillo, we may be able to offer some assistance. "wrnd," whomever you are, you could do much worse than to observe and emulate the articulate, tactful, and in your case, restrained style of our Black Adder. May I also suggest you do not want to tangle with him (read: piss him off).
Civility 101: Avoid at all costs insults, threats, false accusations, and inflammatory vocabulary, such as any declension of the word "lie."
How to Win Friends and Influence People is still in print, after seventy years. I think perhaps its study might prove quite profitable to you.
If you wish, I would be just delighted to make arrangements for you to see one of our counselors who specializes in Communication Skills, rather than Intensive Psychotherapy. I'm not sure your ego-strength is sufficient for that just yet.
Be well.
EDIT: Spelling.
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Post by Where Romeo Never Dies on Apr 1, 2004 17:51:56 GMT -5
I apologize for any inconvience presented here, I simply wait for orders from the head of the government here, the Wonderful Franco. I'm sorry Black, but you don't exactly stack up.
To answer your questions, I've been stating that "cap" indicates an actual number. Of course all regions *probably in the game* have eject someone for gaining a large number of endorsements, however not all have a definite "cap" of a certain number. Most noteably the South Pacific. For the record, I have stated that I was referring to a definite number, not just being ejected for having a high number of endorsements, I apologize if this has confussed anyone.
As for Supernatural, I don't take reprimands/admonishments or anything else from random members of a board, even if the member is Black Adder. And while I appricate the suggestion of a book and communication counselors, I hardly think they will be needed, however thanks very much for your concern.
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Post by Black Adder on Apr 1, 2004 18:26:58 GMT -5
Who are you.
quiénes son usted
chi sono voi
qui sont vous
wer Sie sind
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Post by Where Romeo Never Dies on Apr 1, 2004 18:40:01 GMT -5
My nation is The Colony of Where Romeo Never Dies.
You are more than welcome to visit it Black.
**Spelling Edit.
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Post by Black Adder on Apr 1, 2004 19:43:23 GMT -5
Thank you for the kind offer but I believe I'll decline.
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Post by Tar A on Apr 2, 2004 23:11:20 GMT -5
Latin? Quis es?
Meh, I've been studying too much. Anyway, this thread has gotten terribly off topic, so to return to the original point, Gooberguchnia, I'm afraid your opinion and your region's opinion mean almost nothing to us. I kind of recall banning you from our chat room for coming in and pointlessly slandering our leader. Very immature. Is this post supposed to be something new and exciting? Guess what, it isn't.
I'm going to bed now.
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Freedom Fighter
Liege
Secretary of Defense (Retired) - The South Pacific
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Post by Freedom Fighter on Apr 4, 2004 9:34:59 GMT -5
To answer your questions, I've been stating that "cap" indicates an actual number. Of course all regions *probably in the game* have eject someone for gaining a large number of endorsements, however not all have a definite "cap" of a certain number. Most noteably the South Pacific. For the record, I have stated that I was referring to a definite number, not just being ejected for having a high number of endorsements, I apologize if this has confussed anyone. Romeo, you are a little misinformed about The South Pacific. We have a little thing called Martial Law which can be invoked if a nation reaches 70% of the current delegates endorsement level without making contact on the offsite forum and declaring their intent of running for delegate. It was last used during the Savage Lands Reloaded incedent.
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Post by Where Romeo Never Dies on Apr 4, 2004 16:15:21 GMT -5
Oh apparently I am then.
I apologize everyone.
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Unlimited
Senator / Pacific Surveyor of Foreign Threat
Vanguard of the Pacific Revolution
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Post by Unlimited on Apr 4, 2004 16:35:40 GMT -5
Don't worry about it. There are so many misinformed people out there, carrying around the same flawed views and half-truths about the NPO and what it represents. However, this is a time of transformation. A time when people are beginning to see through the propaganda and rheteric of the old regime. I only hope that at this time, you will join them.
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Post by Mammothistan on Apr 4, 2004 22:45:15 GMT -5
My comrades have brought up excellent points. Let us also not forget the West Pacific. Many of us have become slightly more familiar with their laws after the past election.
The largest difference, however, between us and that ADN region is we in the NPO do not get our allies to "dig up" false information on our closet opponent, as a pretext for ejecting them. The NPO High Court believes in a fairer system of justice.
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Goobergunchia
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Founder, Democratic Underground region
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Post by Goobergunchia on Apr 28, 2004 22:33:58 GMT -5
Perhaps I should have been clearer.
My objection to the New Pacific Order largely stems from the following sections of the Civil Code:
1001: A declaration of dislike for the Delegate of the Pacific or his policies with intent to subvert the Government.
1002: Insulting or spreading calumny about a member of the Government in public or in telegram.
2001: Expression of dislike for the policies of the Pacific Government or those Governments allied with or declared friendly by the Pacific Government.
2002: Expression of views considered counter to those of the Pacific Government.
2005: Failure to become aligned with the Delegate.
I believe in free speech - a nation's right to state its support or opposition of regional government should not lead to its ejection from the region. There is only cause for ejection if people descend to flaming or personal attacks.
1004: Excessively poor grammar.
Although I concede that poor grammar is annoying, it does not consist of a basis for ejection.
2004: Resigning from the UN without obtaining authorization from the proper Government ministry.
UN membership is a decision that can only be made by a nation itself, and UN membership should not be forced on a nation against its will.
0004: Belonging to a subversive organization.
This is not only ill-defined, but it is too broad a restriction on free speech - see above.
The above points are made cognizant of the Pacific's status as NationStates's first region. Although many Founded regions have rules (especially as pertains to UN membership) stricter than that of the NPO, a Founder of a region has rights much broader than that of a Delegate. The Pacifics should be and are held to a higher standard than that of other regions, as they are examples to the rest of NationStates.
The above is a statement of personal views and is not necessarily the official stance of the Democratic Underground region.
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