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Post by Mariupol on Feb 5, 2004 23:33:57 GMT -5
For my own ignorance and worries about my image within another region as Kurdazistan I joined forces with Corithne many months ago.
I wish for forgiveness. I no longer care what my former allies think of me and plan to play this game from now only with the concern of making fun.
Being a part of a region like the West Pacific was not fun. It calls itself a democracy when elites and a corrupt delegate rule it. It attacks regions like the Pacific, while holding a double standard against itself.
I do not expect to become a Senator again. I have no desire for that. I merely wish to take part in a region, which always intrigued and interested me.
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Post by Livingood on Feb 5, 2004 23:56:31 GMT -5
Who are you, what did you do, and why should we trust/forgive you?
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Post by Unlimited on Feb 5, 2004 23:58:43 GMT -5
He is Zhdanov, he was once a senator of the NPO. He betrayed us and joined a terrorist organisation. Why should we trust/forgive him? You got me on that one.
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Post by RedCommunist on Feb 6, 2004 0:03:59 GMT -5
Treason is something you can't undo. But we should all forgive people for this faults. I say forgive him but don't let him back into any spot of power or knowledge in the NPO.
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Post by Livingood on Feb 6, 2004 0:10:56 GMT -5
Treason is the worst crime he could've possibly committed here. What's wrong with ejections/IP bans? If Francos can get rid of the Republic of Big Titties, why not a traitor?
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Post by Tar A on Feb 6, 2004 1:19:21 GMT -5
Actually, he never betrayed us, so much as he was never with us in the first place. It doesn't matter, though, fact is, he's never done anything to earn our trust/forgiveness. Still ,*shrugs* no reason to run him off.
Hi.
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Post by Wabu-Dhati on Feb 6, 2004 5:00:38 GMT -5
There's never a reason to accept a traitor back. I wonder if he has any names we've let stay?
Have him prove useful.
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Post by Azerbaijanistanialand on Feb 6, 2004 11:04:42 GMT -5
There's never a reason not to. His presence does no harm.
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Post by Mariupol on Feb 6, 2004 12:02:55 GMT -5
It is more important that I point out my apology is directly more so at Franco, Poskrebsyhev, Inferno, and Bertam.
While I consider what newer nations have to say on the subject, they are many things they do not know of the situation.
Treason is unforgiveable. Even if I am "forgiven" I will have to live with what I've done and I do not wish to have any position of power as I've already said. I only wish to see the will of the NPO fulfilled, whatever it may be.
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Post by Mariupol on Feb 6, 2004 12:06:21 GMT -5
The decision to join with the "terrorists" was made out of rashness. One cannot deny that had I not originally joined with them, it may have increased the chances of Corithne actually succeeding in overthrowing Francos Spain?
My betrayal brought many other traitors out of the works.
I do not expect to be forgiven instantly. In time I believe I will more than prove myself again.
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Post by Warrior Thorin on Feb 6, 2004 12:20:11 GMT -5
I'm a little confused here. Why didn't you tell us who you were when you first apologized. And haven't you apologized once before? I, for one, can never trust you because your words never seem to match your actions. I don't really know what your planning here, but I will tell you this, I will watch you very carefully.
Perhaps some of you think this is hypocritical on my part, but I do not believe that Zhadnov is genuine. I see no evidence of being contrite here; just one excuse (a weak one at that). And, the subverters themselves seem to have taken a distrust to Zhadnov as well. I do not believe that he can ever ally himself with anyone in a sincere manner. At least when Nur (the nation formerly known as Savage) came to the NPO, he did so by assisting our beloved Emperor.
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Post by Azerbaijanistanialand on Feb 6, 2004 12:23:56 GMT -5
He may have made a mistake, but it was fairly self evident who he was, by his
Slightly off topic, but does anyone else remeber a Kurdazistan stirring the natives in the North recently? I could have sworn I saw some people complaining about NPO infiltrators.
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Post by Tar A on Feb 6, 2004 12:55:30 GMT -5
The North? No, that was Sav- er, Nur. Kurds has been in the West and, to a lesser extent, the South.
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Post by Azerbaijanistanialand on Feb 6, 2004 13:12:06 GMT -5
Ah I see. Zhdanaov your first post suggests you are this nation aswell . . . .
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Post by Mariupol on Feb 6, 2004 15:01:59 GMT -5
I have never denied this. Yes I am Kurdazistan.
Thorin, if the NPO had taken your current viewpoint you would not be here speaking to us all in the forum right now would you?
I would not consider your position hypocritical, I know it is. Do not judge me the way others judged you when you choosed a similar decision to mine to defect as that is what you're currently doing.
I told Franco who I am already. He is the person who deserves my apology the most.
My mentioning that I have no desire to become a Senator is not off-topic at all. The people whom I used to consider friends always considered me a spy in the NPO.
Being a part of the organization I once was in is a thankless job. When I was a Senator (although you can question my loyalty) I was part of something. I wish to be part of the NPO again. I very much agree with referring to organizations like the RFP and PA terrorists. They all operate the exact same way, each with a council of leaders that is not questionable to anyone. Their "army" follows them with a ignorant zeal.
What could I have offered? Would you all have wanted me to offer the West Pacific for forgiveness? I do have loyalty. Even if I'm betrayed by my own side, I would not just hand their region over to prove a point.
An individual that would do something like that is worse than a traitor.
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