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Post by Lesser Cambodia on Sept 11, 2003 14:10:48 GMT -5
A council sounds like an excellent idea; representative democracy has always been the best way to govern. Perhaps you should run this idea by Francos Spain.
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Post by Francos Spain on Sept 11, 2003 16:04:21 GMT -5
Matters of the UN are already decided democratically. I cast my vote on resolutions based the majority opinion of the region. As far as power and political struggles are concerned, I think it is best not to drag the majority of the region down with such quarrels.
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Post by Francos Spain on Sept 13, 2003 0:39:57 GMT -5
Bertram Stantrous has been nominated, ratified, and appointed as a Senator of the Pacific. He shall immediately take on the following offices:
- Chief of the Repression of Insurrection - Ensurer of Political Stability - Director of the Pacific Secret Police - Minister of Potential Insurgent Identification and Investigation
Let the Pacific celebrate and congratulate Bertram Stantrous on his prestigious and honorable post as Senator.
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Post by BertramStantrous on Sept 13, 2003 21:33:56 GMT -5
Receiving this job took hard work. I had to reveal over 10 dissidents to attain such a title!
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Post by Lesser Cambodia on Sept 14, 2003 18:11:46 GMT -5
Hmm...my post must have been deleted on accident. No matter. My suggestion was that each member of the Pacific be placed in a position similar to Bertram Stantrous, with no nation elevated above another. I don't see the need in creating a special position for one informant in particular.
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Post by Myrdinn on Sept 14, 2003 22:27:11 GMT -5
I like this idea of a senate, even if it operates right here. I think it would do well in any democracy to have representation. I like the idea, and I think it shows Francos to be an astute leader. I'd like to know more as this develops and might even participate if allowed.
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Post by BertramStantrous on Sept 14, 2003 23:15:27 GMT -5
Yes, but I work hard at the job. I aint just some informant... I use special "classified" methods to attain my information. I've prevented several uprisings alone because of my actions. Just last night, I gained important information on over 9 dissidents, who are now under surveillance. They had better hope they don't make a wrong move (you know who you are).
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Post by Myrdinn on Sept 15, 2003 0:33:55 GMT -5
Congrats BertramStantrous!
It must be quite an honor! Let me know if I can be of any help to you and the senate.
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Post by Lesser Cambodia on Sept 15, 2003 14:48:42 GMT -5
The formation of such an exclusive form of government, which I hesitate to call "representative" because of the fact that every official but the delegate himself was appointed and not elected, shows only the desire for power, not the presence of competent leadership. I personally believe that all of the United Nations members in the Pacific should have a say in who runs the day-to-day operations of government in their region aside from the delegate. The delegate should still be the main authority figure, but more democratic processes should be undertaken to select his advisors and aides.
When I was a member of the Pacific region and not relegated to the political commentary I am participating in here, we were in one of the more prevalent periods of democracy, which is actually how Francos Spain came to be the delegate. Now that he has ascended to office, many nations have been silenced and key government officials are now appointed instead of elected; for solidarity purposes, I suppose. Will another golden age of the Pacific emerge from this tumult? We can only wait and see. In the meantime, however, I would suggest democracy and tolerance, ideals sure to endear any leader to the hearts of his people.
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Post by Lesser Cambodia on Sept 15, 2003 14:54:44 GMT -5
...and as for Bertram Stantrous's statement of his qualifications, why shouldn't every nation that uses subversive tactics in policing be given a Senate seat? I, for one, would suggest more proofs of the credentials you boast that merit senatorial status, but as I am not a member of the Pacific or the United Nations, it is not my place to request such things. Carry on with your duties, and may you be deemed worthy by your charge, the nations of the Pacific, whose defense has now been entrusted to you.
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Post by Poskrebyshev on Sept 15, 2003 21:02:05 GMT -5
Esentially, the twenty or so nations in the Pacific that care to pay attention are ruled by an appointed government of 5 or so. Rather than have a "Democracy" in which those same twenty or so choose 5 if they happen to be on the week the voting takes place.
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Post by Ademcoland on Sept 16, 2003 21:37:06 GMT -5
This seems more like a triumvirate than democracy to me, and that particular Roman way was not the best way to govern. Their empire was soiled with the stain of unrest and discord amongst the populace, and their leadership was famous only for its apathy toward the populace and an insatiable greed for personal power.
Don't blame Rome on the Romans. The Empire collapsed because the ceasars abandoned the ideals that the state was based on. Agreed, having decadent pigs in positions of power will screw up your government, but that doesnt mean the entire system is invalid.
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Post by Myrdinn on Sept 16, 2003 22:07:12 GMT -5
The way I read these threads is that the senate is just being formed. It takes time to form a new government, so for those impatient few who don't share Franco's vision, I say learn patience. The few delegates who have been chosen seem willing to listen to our needs as they are and they have been doing a great job of protecting us. I don't understand why so many of you are complaining.
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Post by BertramStantrous on Sept 18, 2003 11:08:26 GMT -5
Cambodia, according to Francos, I have shown enough results to be named a senator. Democracy isn't even an issue in this case. In the US, they appoint Supreme Court Justices without any input from the people, and they are the pinnicle of democracy. If I presented my "credentials" to you, Cambodia, all my work would be ruined. Remember the word "classified?" That's not just a buzzword. If the CIA carries out an operation, do they show it to the general public and ask for their opinion? Hell no! Besides, who are you to question what we do? You aren't even in the region! What are you even doing on our board?
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Post by Francos Spain on Sept 18, 2003 13:27:08 GMT -5
Lesser Cambodia, formerly a diplomat, is currently a resident of the Pacific.
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