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Post by loistopia on Aug 22, 2004 15:28:35 GMT -5
I am new here so I do not know the whole story about the NPO and ADN. I do not believe you have been here a longtime Defaultia, I know I haven't. I was wondering why you are staying here. I mean if the NPO is so bad why stay? No one is keeping you here. I do not know how long I will stay here. But it seems rude and childish to come onto to someone else's board and post about how bad they are doing things and how your way is better. If your way is better, where is your board? How big is your region? How long have you been in power?
Sorry, if it was wrong of me to post this. I just hate people saying they can do it better. Cause if they could why haven't they done it.
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Post by RedCommunist on Aug 22, 2004 15:36:38 GMT -5
^ Listen to the lady
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Post by LadyRebels on Aug 22, 2004 15:39:09 GMT -5
loistopia,
That is a great thing that you just said, and it is not wrong.
Look not all ideas work for all regions, and demanding changes of a system that is working is wrong.
They have it set up the way it works for them, dang why don't you wait and see what happens and quit attacking.
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Post by Brezhnev on Aug 22, 2004 15:43:04 GMT -5
I think that's what she was saying. Or was that last part to Defaultia? On a side note, the page numbers have disappeared from this thread sometime within the last five minutes .
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Post by RedCommunist on Aug 22, 2004 16:07:59 GMT -5
Happened to the hottub thread as well...
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Post by Neandertron on Aug 22, 2004 22:31:03 GMT -5
once you reach the end of this page you probably wont be able to post. thats what happened to my lovely intrest section .
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Post by Doppelganger on Aug 22, 2004 23:19:30 GMT -5
Really? Name me ONE Pacific that had a new government that deviated radically from the policies of the previous one, wasn't affiliated with the previous one and survived past 30 days. NONE. When UPS Rail and Great Bight moved the NP away from an aggressive stance they all rallied and tried to crush them. You've all managed a fair bit of retro rewrite so far, you all wanted them until they said maybe we weren't so bad. The NPO did not start the troubles in the NP, the NP did by endorsing UPS Rail and Great Bight into those positions. There was no invasion. Give your head a shake, that was DEMOCRACY in action. Funny how you all resorted to evil Invader status when you didn't like the outcome. Please, do go to the ADN and try to convert those evil Oligarchies. I will be most amused when they crucify you above the front door. God I love it when Black Adder gets fired up! Good show, comrade!
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Post by SardaASSK on Aug 23, 2004 8:20:19 GMT -5
Point number one, the quote ACTUALLY reads:
"Democracy is the worst system of government, except for everything else"
Which was situationally correct.
Point two, in the real world and in NationStates, legitimacy is not synonymous with democracy. The ADN seeks to make it so, but where is the legitimacy in them? They delcare themselves legitimate by their own standards of legitimacy ;D
That said, I couldn't care any less about whether or not we improve or destroy ADN relations. Unlimited is ever vigilant, and the Pacific supports its Senate.
Tootle pip!
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Post by TheShaft on Aug 25, 2004 12:38:08 GMT -5
It's fools like you who give the ADN a bad name and before you ask I'm not in the NPO nor do I support their methods but if you want someone to change you dont attack them with idle threats. one persons moaning wont make the NPO change their ways. I also am not a member of the NPO. I would not have TSP have this kind of government, one thing I have noticed is that people who are here don't seem to complain much the only complaints I have noticed have come from people who are not in this region. A republic or a democracy is not everyones choice for a way to play this game.
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Post by Kandarin on Aug 25, 2004 12:52:11 GMT -5
Senate elections would be interesting, but who would elect the Senators? The existing Senate (a la Meritocracy)? Their province's governor/government (a la ADN)? "The People"? All except the first (which, I presume, is the current policy) would be prone in an organization of one region to being easily manipulated by outside sources.The NPO senate is more of a council than a representative body anyway.
The ADN's dislike of the NPO is not based on the lack of democracy, and if we were going to go on a global crusade for democracy in all regions we would first have to remove many of our own member regions who are not democratic for a variety of reasons.
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Post by Black Adder on Aug 25, 2004 13:57:55 GMT -5
Interesting. Thank you Kandarin. First time I've seen that from the ADN. Its usually Democracy or Death.
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Post by RedCommunist on Aug 25, 2004 16:53:38 GMT -5
So if it is not government....why do they hate the NPO? Is it because they are sour pussies and can't get over an event 10 months ago?
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Post by Doppelganger on Aug 25, 2004 16:56:24 GMT -5
So if it is not government....why do they hate the NPO? Is it because they are sour pussies and can't get over an event 10 months ago? Bingo. Except is was almost a year ago now.
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Post by RedCommunist on Aug 25, 2004 17:00:17 GMT -5
Well come were kicked out in a purge 10 months ago, which is when the ADN was founded.
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Post by Clizz on Aug 29, 2004 18:26:54 GMT -5
Why dont we just do whatever the hell we want to? We dont have to do anything anybody else tells us, so why would we start with a corrupt organization like the ADN anyway? Please just leave the best region in this damn game alone.
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