Defaultia
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Post by Defaultia on Aug 22, 2004 11:40:01 GMT -5
1. The ADN attacked us many times before The North Pacific incident. So if I set up a group, declare war on everyone and invade them, I'm not an invader? No matter how you try to justify it, you invade, therefore, you're an invader, nothing more, nothing better. 2. You've really got to find a better source than the ADN News Service. 1. When did the ADN attack you? Give me an independent source. And no, I'm not justifying the invasion. 2. My source wasn't the ADNNS. My source was NBC, which is the only unbiased news source left.
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Unlimited
Senator / Pacific Surveyor of Foreign Threat
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Post by Unlimited on Aug 22, 2004 11:46:29 GMT -5
When did the ADN attack us, are you kidding? Their attacks on us from the past are well documented, they've been involved in all of them, and never stop scheming in between.
The only two NBC repoters I can name is a North Pacific patriot who blames everything on the NPO (Franken) and a 10000 Islands member (Hennan). Both strongly anti-NPO, unbiased?
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Post by RedCommunist on Aug 22, 2004 12:13:14 GMT -5
Well one is Kaiser of TGE. He is very anti-ADN but very anti-USSR and semi-anti-NPO.
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Post by Black Adder on Aug 22, 2004 12:53:25 GMT -5
1. When did the ADN attack you? Give me an independent source. And no, I'm not justifying the invasion. 2. My source wasn't the ADNNS. My source was NBC, which is the only unbiased news source left. No news source is unbiased. The minute they start reporting objectively they are decried as being a mouthpiece for the opposing side. If the 'Defence Minister' for the ADN CrazyGirl leading the attack isn't clear enough involvement for you then I seriously question your grasp on reality. She was using intel and resources collected from the ADN and the Meritocracy Intel services. Meritocracy involvement was complicit by the presence of their Consul Unistrut. While Unistrut may not have been official in his capacity he exerts enough influence. Nucleo you have to get it out of your head there is black and white in this game. There is so much blood on everyone's hands to even try and claim moral high ground is a ghastly, hideous joke. We are no more wrong than they are right. Everyone should go back to their corners and begin to think what the hell they are really looking for because all I ever hear from the ADN is a desire to fight. Too many war movies.
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Post by Brezhnev on Aug 22, 2004 13:03:30 GMT -5
Aside from the fact we didn't invade the North Pacific, wasn't the USSR ejected from the ADN for being friendly with a declared enemy (that'd be us) of the ADN... back in January?
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Sir Paul
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Post by Sir Paul on Aug 22, 2004 13:08:54 GMT -5
Here is an excerpt from the Meritocratic Times
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Defaultia
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Post by Defaultia on Aug 22, 2004 13:11:31 GMT -5
Aside from the fact we didn't invade the North Pacific, wasn't the USSR ejected from the ADN for being friendly with a declared enemy (that'd be us) of the ADN... back in January? So what do you call NPO spies taking the delegate seat? A liberation? Defense? Natives? It's an invasion, and NBC is the least biased news source.
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Post by Black Adder on Aug 22, 2004 13:19:17 GMT -5
What do you call Delegates holding positions in the Meritocracy? Roleplay. To follow their justifications whatever one does outside the parameters of the organization is outside the parameters and not reflective of them. Tell me one recognized NPO nation that was in a position of authority over there. Tell me one.
None. It was not an NPO operation. We did not enter the picture until requested. The N Pac was ALSO, not NPO. You can't use different yardsticks against whomever you feel people. UPS Rail and Great Bight are not NPO nations. Never have been, never claimed to be.
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Post by Brezhnev on Aug 22, 2004 13:27:06 GMT -5
Conspiracy theory. It has never been shown that UPS Rail = Sir Paul.
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Post by LadyRebels on Aug 22, 2004 13:48:11 GMT -5
Everyone still gets it wrong.
NPO is not the only stable Government in NS, there are others.
TSP is stable as well. Has been for a very long time.
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Sir Paul
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Post by Sir Paul on Aug 22, 2004 13:51:24 GMT -5
True...TSP and TEP are stable.
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Post by LadyRebels on Aug 22, 2004 14:00:04 GMT -5
TEP has been stable longer than TSP......
I remember being on Loop's ban list..... ;D what an honor that he removed my Nation from it......he is so cool ;D
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Post by Black Adder on Aug 22, 2004 14:05:09 GMT -5
Everyone still gets it wrong. NPO is not the only stable Government in NS, there are others. TSP is stable as well. Has been for a very long time. That's not the issue. You are not being called undemocratic and you aren't a true democracy. No feeder is. People question our legitimacy and we respond with the arguments. It appears the vast majority are not listening, if we did not have a mandate we would not have stability. That is what is being said. Honestly we have enough problems without trying to solve the SP's or the EP's or anyone else's. It would be nice if the other regions concentrated on their own issues instead of trying to 'correct' ours. You shouldn't be offended by a perceived non existant slight. Be glad you (the SP) aren't being questioned. I'm sure if we weren't here many of you would be.
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Post by franken on Aug 25, 2004 2:43:59 GMT -5
Unlimited, I dont blame anything on the NPO... what the hell are you talking about?
I am quite neutral towards the NPO... on the one hand, you guys took power legitamately and have the right to do whatever you please. Sometimes I am appalled with the way the ADN acts against the NPO. On the other hand, I dont like the fact that Francos ejected my nation and many others.
Blaming EVERYTHING on the NPO, huh? I dont believe that UPS Rail was actually Sir Paul in disguise, I dont think Great Bight was Mammothistan. Remember the fact that I joined the ADN to SPY on them. Dont start spouting stuff you dont know anything about in order to further your point.
P.S.- why was my account here deleted?
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Unlimited
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Post by Unlimited on Aug 25, 2004 3:50:40 GMT -5
From what I've read in the past, you've blamed the NPO for all the NP's problems (including UPS/GB) and seemingly for everyone elses. But perhaps I mistook you for someone else.
Anyway...
Defaultia said:
NBC said:
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