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Post by Nova Atlantica on Aug 18, 2004 11:14:29 GMT -5
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Post by LadyRebels on Aug 18, 2004 11:19:02 GMT -5
Let's just hope that BS comes to an end soon.
Anyway is a long history, and better explained by those that know it more so than I do.
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Post by SardaASSK on Aug 18, 2004 11:30:00 GMT -5
THE NUTSHELL HISTORY OF THE NPO-ADN FEUD:
The NPO takes control of the Pacific delegacy, ADN pissed, two liberation (invasion) attempts in the Pacific fail, ADN says we aren't legit, we say we are, etc, ADN stubborn; mucho stupido... etc... we moral high-ground... etc...
Ya dig mate? ;D
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Post by Nova Atlantica on Aug 18, 2004 12:56:30 GMT -5
Why don't you two just try and work it out? Have a peace conference or somthing... Compromise.
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Post by Sir Paul on Aug 18, 2004 13:01:57 GMT -5
LadyRebels will try to host a peace summit on the issues. She is planning on inviting all Pacifics, the Met, and the realm of criminology. I'm sure if Pope Hope wants to come she can.
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Post by Nova Atlantica on Aug 18, 2004 13:21:06 GMT -5
Glad to hear it. ;D
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Post by Black Adder on Aug 18, 2004 13:29:23 GMT -5
Why don't you two just try and work it out? Have a peace conference or somthing... Compromise. We have. Problem is rogue elements refusing to concede. We have a small core of very fixated people continually refusing to let go they were overthrown. Much of what we are accused of being is directly due to those actions by what we regard as terrorists. We are maligned for our ban list, the civil code our covert ops but they are all there because one small group decided they didn't want Franco as leader. All of this oppression you can lay at their feet. They were the ones who stirred up the 'innocents' that were ejected. Because of their invasion attempts they are the ones who caused preventative measures like the code, the covert operations. All those were brought in to protect the revolution. I should be very interested to see what comes of the summit. I'm hopeful the rest of NS will start to think pragmatically about all of this.
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Post by Nova Atlantica on Aug 18, 2004 13:40:09 GMT -5
Hmm... Can I attend this summit on behalf of the Pacific? Or do you have more experienced ambassadors being sent?
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Post by Black Adder on Aug 18, 2004 13:43:17 GMT -5
We haven't been told how many are to attend as representatives for which regions. Given the gravity of this and the importance we will be very diligent about who is going as official representatives. Until I know specifics I can't say what we'll be doing.
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Post by Nova Atlantica on Aug 18, 2004 13:48:53 GMT -5
I see. Alright.
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Post by Galaisa on Aug 18, 2004 13:49:49 GMT -5
I may be a hard liner but after what the ADN did against Unlimited I believe they are a rouge and ruthlessly opportunistic organization bent on destroying order in nationstates.
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Post by Nova Atlantica on Aug 18, 2004 13:52:00 GMT -5
I may be a hard liner but after what the ADN did against Unlimited I believe they are a rouge and ruthlessly opportunistic organization bent on destroying order in nationstates. Its sentiments like that that will get you nowhere. While the Pacific may have grievances with the ADN, so too they have problems with us. That is what the Summit is for-To work out differences. Name-calling and rude accusations (however true they may be) will do little to ease tensions between our two peoples.
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Post by SardaASSK on Aug 18, 2004 13:55:55 GMT -5
Condemning the truth in such a fashion is also counter-productive NA.
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Post by Nova Atlantica on Aug 18, 2004 14:02:37 GMT -5
Condemning the truth in such a fashion is also counter-productive NA. Sarda... I apologise. I do not know the situation well, I merely strive to work out the problems this region seems to have with another region...
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Post by Warrior Thorin on Aug 18, 2004 14:12:39 GMT -5
If you want to get a grasp of the problem, look at the recent actions of the ADN:
When Francos Spain and Poskrebyshev could no longer play NS due to a RL tragedy, the ADN decided to conduct an operation to "liberate" the Pacific (to which they initially denied putting into action despite releasing it on their news service. In that action (which was thwarted due to one last action by the great hero Poskrebyshev), they exercised their rights as hypocrites. They once declared that the Great Pacifican, Francos Spain, exploited an opportunity to oust Theodoc because of Theodoc's RL problems (in all honesty, Theodoc was not a good ruler of the Pacific, but that is another story). How many times have we heard how terrible it was to do such a thing, and they go and exploit a terrible situation themselves.
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