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Post by Selladan on Aug 23, 2004 15:07:12 GMT -5
I think it is time for me to give a better description on why I've joined the ADN. I think there is hope for the ADN. Everyone talks about destroying the ADN and pulling the alliance limb from limb, but I've seen no one talking about trying to reform the ADN. I believe with new leaders and a few months of campaigning, the ADN can restore itself to a noble defender organization. I'm still Pro-NPO, but I'm now also Pro-ADN. You don't like, go lick yourself.
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Post by Brezhnev on Aug 23, 2004 15:15:10 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Pope Hope, Founder/Director-for-Life of the ADN likes us very much. Good luck on replacing her . Actually, I kind of doubt they'll let you in once they've seen you here, but good luck anyways.
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Post by Brezhnev on Aug 23, 2004 15:23:10 GMT -5
You might want to edit the name out. It'll make *that nation* a pariah in the ADN. To do anything you'll have to get elected to a post there and if they get any wind at all of NPO, you're chances are gone. And they've been known for kicking out people for associating with the NPO, RedCommunist for example.
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Post by Selladan on Aug 23, 2004 15:27:26 GMT -5
I deleted it. Mwuahahahaha! If they ask, I'll tell them I hate the scum of the NPO! I'll tell them I love to beat up NPO geeks! No offense to anyone.
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Post by Pierconium on Aug 23, 2004 15:35:18 GMT -5
Tread lightly.
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Post by Brezhnev on Aug 23, 2004 15:43:36 GMT -5
Especially since there was a member of the North Pacific browsing the boards at the time . Edit: The member in question has since PMed me and said he is neutral about the ADN.
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Post by RedCommunist on Aug 23, 2004 16:34:51 GMT -5
/me goes and licks myself
So how can you be both Pro-NPO and Pro-ADN? Like saying you are Pro-Capitalism and Pro-Communism or Pro-Democracy and Pro-Dictatorship.
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Post by Sir Paul on Aug 23, 2004 18:01:58 GMT -5
It's easy Red. I believe in democracy, but with very low voter turn out. Actually, if I'm the only one who votes, that'd be great ;D
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Post by Kandarin on Aug 23, 2004 18:52:52 GMT -5
It's easy Red. I believe in democracy, but with very low voter turn out. Actually, if I'm the only one who votes, that'd be great ;D Actually, you can have as many people vote as you want, as long as you're the only voter surviving. For peace with the ADN to work, it's going to require positive changes on your part as well as positive changes on theirs.
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Post by Berhampore on Aug 23, 2004 19:25:56 GMT -5
Not to butt in but isn't there a movement inside the ADN calling for reforms? The WesPac voted to go along with this call, so change MAY be coming there.
And its who counts the votes (or not count, as the case may be)...
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Post by Brezhnev on Aug 24, 2004 11:00:59 GMT -5
BTW: The member of the North Pacific has since PMed me and said he is neutral about the ADN.
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Post by Warrior Thorin on Aug 24, 2004 11:57:45 GMT -5
Well, BN, I guess I can kind of see your point, although I hope you can follow through. There seems a lot to be a lot hardliners in the ADN, but I agree that there are some progressives who want to make positive changes. I have had the opportunity to have conversations with some members of the ADN concerning justice issues in my region and I have to say that they seemed honorable and noble. Yet, you can't forget that the ADN, as an organization, is evolving into something that is probably ought not to be: an invader entity. Every action that they take is righteous within their rationalization that the truth be damned. That is far more dangerous to me than a simple political organization with no military.
I would genuinely like to see peace one day between the NPO and the ADN, but as Kandarin posits, changes would need to be made on both sides. I think I kind of like the way the NPO is now, and I'll bet the majority of the members of the ADN are comfortable with the direction that they are heading.
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Post by Selladan on Aug 24, 2004 15:04:50 GMT -5
Before it is deleted.. I posted this on the ADN board:
Pope Hope is a pighead.
The End.
Ban me!
Haha!
Go ahead!
I can't stand you!
I hate the ADN!
Bah!
It's so "BAH" here!
Bah!
Pighead!
I thought reforms could be made, but no! Why not?
Because POPE HOPE IS A PIGHEAD!
Bah!
You're all no-change pigheads!
PIG-HEADS!
I just found out, I never liked the ADN! Why?
Because they are PIGHEADS!
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I couldn't stand them anymore.
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Post by Sir Paul on Aug 24, 2004 15:11:24 GMT -5
So, does this mean you're going to go be an invader now? You're starting to run out of factions
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Post by Selladan on Aug 24, 2004 15:13:23 GMT -5
Actually I was thinking about making a neutral region. Either that or joining some ADN hating organization. Maybe Pope Hope will let me into Nasicournia. ;D
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