Unlimited
Senator / Pacific Surveyor of Foreign Threat
Vanguard of the Pacific Revolution
Posts: 694
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Post by Unlimited on Dec 18, 2003 11:04:25 GMT -5
As you well know, people who are kicked and don't know why are free to appeal at the Pacific’s high court.
It has proved time and time again that the small and stupid ca not organise against a common will.
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Post by BertramStantrous on Dec 18, 2003 11:25:20 GMT -5
I find it rather interesting the people who are deemed to be 'idiots' are expelled by you, Francos. That is quite the democracy that you run there. Let's face it, you kick out anyone who you feel may be a threat to your power. I do give you credit in finding a loyal following of people who you have brainwashed into believing you know what is right for them. Bravo. Now you have kicked me out of the Pacific...and for what? I have yet to even receive a reason for my dismissal. What say you to that? Just be careful...you anger too many people, and even the small and stupid can organize against a common will. When have we ever claimed to run a democracy? Francos was obviously justified in his expulsion of you from our region, judging by your behavior in your last post (insulting our supporters). Besides, what did you hope to accomplish by posting that? Thought one of us hardliners would see the light and suddenly decide to switch sides? More likely you were spouting off on our forum to release some inner anger you have on some personal matter. Please don't force that on us. Oh, by the way, it's "whom," not "who." Idiot.
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Post by Abysseria on Dec 18, 2003 13:12:53 GMT -5
Brainwashed? Not likely - how about supportive. How about reasonable. How about intelligent?
Those are far better descriptors of the NPOs supporters. Take this trashy post out of here and go appeal your decision, although I can't see why they'd bother letting you back in when you behave like this.
Way to shoot yourself in the foot, friend.
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Post by Mars Sara on Dec 18, 2003 18:00:56 GMT -5
You know, I hear a lot about Francos' brainwashed drones; but I've yet to run into any of them. If anyone here is brainwashed, its people who buy into the PA and the RRAs talk of 'freedom' and 'democracy'. We here in the NPO believe in what is actually being done for our region, not in BS words that mask a desire for power.
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Post by Tar A on Dec 18, 2003 19:02:19 GMT -5
We're not brainwashed... we're just playing a game... same as everyone else.
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Post by Creeping Death on Dec 18, 2003 20:02:23 GMT -5
The policies of the NPO are only undemocratic insofar as we do not permit the mindless endorsement trading that would give rise to an invading nation usurping the delegacy. Outside of that, our rule is quite democratic. The original intent in NationStates of having a UN delegate was to give a more powerful vote in the UN, and thus for the delegate to cast his vote on resolutions to reflect the common sentiment of his region; this is something I have never failed to do. I also try to take note of other suggestions and wishes nations in the Pacific have, and enact them when possible. Hmmm, when have you ever claimed to run a democracy? Gee, BertramStantrous, could it be in one of Francos' own posts? I can understand your pain, it's difficult to have to become educated and actually read around here. But there are programs for you. I was willing to stand pat, not to get caught up in all of the rhetoric that has gone back and forth among nations in this region. I accepted Francos as my ruler and was happy living in The Pacific. But then I was booted. Now I feel the time has come to take action, and organize those of us who can see what is really taking place here. I wish you luck.
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Post by Black Adder on Dec 19, 2003 1:31:50 GMT -5
Hmmm, when have you ever claimed to run a democracy? Gee, BertramStantrous, could it be in one of Francos' own posts? I can understand your pain, it's difficult to have to become educated and actually read around here. But there are programs for you. I was willing to stand pat, not to get caught up in all of the rhetoric that has gone back and forth among nations in this region. I accepted Francos as my ruler and was happy living in The Pacific. But then I was booted. Now I feel the time has come to take action, and organize those of us who can see what is really taking place here. I wish you luck. Bullshit. No one is booted without reason. Take your soapbox and get the f**k out. I'm getting tired of the forced righteous indignation, you sway no one.
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Post by Abysseria on Dec 19, 2003 9:25:41 GMT -5
And where are you going to go? The Pacific Army? The RRA? Neither are truly democratic. Take your popularism and foolishness with you. Enjoy your exile.
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Post by Creeping Death on Dec 19, 2003 10:30:36 GMT -5
Bullshit. No one is booted without reason. Take your soapbox and get the f**k out. I'm getting tired of the forced righteous indignation, you sway no one. I'm not looking to sway anyone, I'm looking for an answer. Through all of this, where is these so called leaders of yours who did boot me? Where are the answers as to why? You speak as if you know the answers, but you don't. How can you say there is a reason when you really don't know? It's like arguing with someone that the world is flat. You have no facts, just banter. This has been the characteristic of the NPO all along. And now that I have made a point, rather than a respectful reply, I get cursed at and told to get out. Very mature. I had expected more...but oh well.
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Unlimited
Senator / Pacific Surveyor of Foreign Threat
Vanguard of the Pacific Revolution
Posts: 694
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Post by Unlimited on Dec 19, 2003 10:39:41 GMT -5
If you want to know why you were kicked you should appeal in the high court. Really, this is not a hard thing to do and would get you further than throwing FPA rhetoric around our civil HQ.
Also, I don't think the "Flat Earth Society"(http://www.flat-earth.org/) would take kindly to your comments.
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Post by Warrior Thorin on Dec 19, 2003 12:53:14 GMT -5
I'm not looking to sway anyone, I'm looking for an answer. Through all of this, where is these so called leaders of yours who did boot me? Where are the answers as to why? You speak as if you know the answers, but you don't. How can you say there is a reason when you really don't know? It's like arguing with someone that the world is flat. You have no facts, just banter. This has been the characteristic of the NPO all along. And now that I have made a point, rather than a respectful reply, I get cursed at and told to get out. Very mature. I had expected more...but oh well. As far as being cursed at, you opened yourself for that by declaring all of the NPO supporters are brainwashed. On the contrary, I have found the supporters of the NPO to be quite intelligent...and they seem to know the proper use of the English language, unlike some of the people in the RRA and the PA. No facts? What is it that you wish to argue? An infraction of the Civil Code? I have yet to see one nation get ejected just because Francos had some folly. Even when I was ejected, it was because I had infracted the Civil Code. Besides, Savage, everyone here knows why you were in the Pacific. You mention that "banter" is the characteristic of the NPO. I totally disagree with you on that. Read the threads. Read the Civil Code. Read the actions of the High Court. None of that is just banter. Now, read the crap on the RRA forum and The Free Pacific Army forum. Carefully compare and contrast what you see. What you'll see if a lot of emotionally charged rhetoric that once you remove the emotion, you are left with empty values and lack of facts.
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Post by BertramStantrous on Dec 19, 2003 14:41:36 GMT -5
Where are the leaders who banned you? That's a stupid question. Where is the planet you are standing on?
Where are our answers as to why you were banned? Maybe before you accuse me of being uneducated, perhaps you should take a second to LOOK AT OUR CIVIL CODE to find your answer. I'm sure you MUST have memorized it by now, what with your oh-so-superior READING skills.
Besides, if banter is characteristic of the NPO, why did you expect more from us? Perhaps because you're a JACKASS?
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Post by Black Adder on Dec 19, 2003 15:38:08 GMT -5
I And now that I have made a point, rather than a respectful reply, I get cursed at and told to get out. Very mature. I had expected more...but oh well. Expected more? Try this Savage. You fool no one with your puppets. Every day we put up with this nonsense on the boards. I don't have to put up with it here too. You get cursed at because you all push the boundaries, break the law then cry foul. Who's at fault? You. You can read and you choose to ignore it. Again I call BULLSHIT. You want to take this region go give every homeless person you meet 5$ and tell them to login into an internet cafe. Looks to be the only way you'll do it. You try my patience with this no matter how amiable you may be.
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Post by Creeping Death on Dec 20, 2003 2:02:28 GMT -5
No facts? What is it that you wish to argue? An infraction of the Civil Code? I have yet to see one nation get ejected just because Francos had some folly. Read the Civil Code. Read the actions of the High Court. I'm not going to jump through your hoops and go through all sorts of appeals and posts just to get a response of, "After a discussion on the case with the Judge, he has ruled that you are indeed guilty of the crime as charged and the punishment given stands." Doesn't seem like an answer to what was violated, just the fact that you are kicked out. I read the Civil Code and did not see an area that I was in violation of. I telgramed your leader and inquired, but received no response. I posted in here, asking about it, and have yet to receive any response to my questions...rather more rhetoric and insults. And when I refute an arguement one of you make, more insults fly and no backing is made by you. Oh, and Black Adder...nobody is forcing anything upon you. You are using your own free will to not only read these posts, but also to respond. Awww, I try your patience...I'm so sorry.
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Post by Abysseria on Dec 20, 2003 10:20:19 GMT -5
Actually, if you bothered to truly appeal, you'd do so in the proper thread.
Don't waste our time whining about your case when you can't be bothered to appeal in the proper place. If you want an answer, appeal in the proper place. We don't care if you won't like the answer you get - if indeed you GET an answer you don't want.
The fact is, you'll never get an answer to your question in this thread - it's not the right place for your appeal!
I know you can figure that out!
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